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April 19, 2011

It seems like the first clásico has just barely ended, but we have another one coming up tomorrow already, the Copa del Rey final.  I really want Iker to win a Copa del Rey before he retires.

But first up a couple more scenes from Saturday’s game.  I loved how Antonio Adán stood behind Mou in the bench area, mirroring his moves.  And when Messi ran into Pepe’s ass, I adored how Xabi just nonchalantly stepped over him as he lay on the ground (so boss), waiting for someone to notice him.  Unfortunately, the play just continued.

And some more pre-game scenes – Pepe hugging everyone in sight, and Xabi directing the troops.

Loco, loco, loco: According to Marca, Gerard Piqué had some choice words for Madrid’s players in the tunnel after the game, including his national team teammates Sergio Ramos and Iker Casillas (the others present were Carvalho, Pepe and Adebayor).  As they made their way back to the locker room, separated by that thin wall, Piqué shouted, while staring at the madridistas, “Long live Spain!  Long live the Spanish Liga!  Eight points, eight points!  Españolitos, we’ve already beaten you for your Spanish Liga, we’ve showed you!”  He then went on to scream, “Españolitos, now we’re going to win the Cup of your king!”  AS has also reported this incident as well.

I’m hoping this isn’t true, because that would be disgusting behavior from someone who plays for the Spanish national team (and the last time I checked, he’s still a Spaniard), and unsportsmanlike behavior from any athlete.  If it were anyone else but Piqué, I would have doubts about the veracity, but I can see Piqué doing this (again, I’m hoping he didn’t).

(By the way, the article mentioning this was accompanied by a picture of Piqué patting Cristiano on the ass.)

Update: El Mundo Deportivo, meanwhile, reported that Pepe had spit on some of Barcelona’s players.  If that’s true, then I’m very disappointed in Pepe, because we don’t need that type of unsportsmanlike behavior from our players, and I expect better from those who wear the escudo on their chests.

Update II: Piqué has stated via twitter that the information is completely false, and that he would never say such stupid things.  I’m glad it turned out to be false, and that he cleared it up!

The plan for today looks like this: Madrid will hold their last training session at 11h.  Then they’ll head to Valencia at 19h (the delegation will include all the injured players, as well as the canteranos who have participated, which means Juanfran, since MFC Álvaro Borja Morata Martín is on national team duty), where they’ll stay at the Palau de la Mar hotel.  Mou has prohibited all outsiders (meaning anyone who’s not a player, part of the technical team, one of two press officers or security) from entering the hotel, and only FP himself and Miguel Pardeza are exempted.  Mou has also ordered the hotel to clear out the minibars as well, with only bottled water to be available to the players.  Well then, I hope Marcelo is rooming next to Cristiano, or he might go thirsty!

Mou will speak to the press from the Mestalla at 20:30h on Tuesday afternoon.

New shoes:  several of the players sponsored by Adidas will wear new boots for the final, and as you can see, they’re personalized for April 20.  Here we have Xabi and Ángel di María’s boots.  Of course Xabi doesn’t go beyond the name and number (no flags, no special slogans, no initials, no names of others), staying true to his classic self.  Ángel has the names of his parents embroidered on his boots.

Celebrate good times… Real Madrid has set up a special fan zone in Valencia on the riverbed of the Turia between the Puente de las Flores and the Puente de Calatrava to welcome all of their fans who will be in the city for the final.  One of the main attractions will no doubt be the life-size replica of La Cibeles that Madrid has used in the past for Liga celebrations (and which used to sit on the old Ciudad Deportiva), only without the protective fence.  There will also be a fan zone hosted in a huge tent in Vilamarxant, Raúl Albiol’s nearby hometown, despite his absence from the game.

A great initiative: more on what can be expected on Wednesday: Madrid’s peñas have started an initiative for all of Madrid’s fans who will be in the Mestalla tomorrow to attend with Spanish flags.  Via social networks and emails, they’ve asked the fans to wear Madrid’s shirt and bring along the rojigualda, under the slogan “one madridista, one heart and one flag.”  They’ve also emphasized their desire not to see any violence and called for sporting behavior.  The reason behind this initiative is because the national anthem, to be played before the start of the game, has the high possibility of being booed by certain fans.  In the 2009 Copa del Rey final between Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao, also in the Mestalla, the national anthem was booed and pro-independence flags were displayed.

I miss El Moro: we’ll get a little preview of the Copa del Rey final, when a group of former Barcelona and Madrid players will play each other today in Valencia’s Ciudad Deportiva.  They are two of the three teams in a mini-tournament (the third team is made up of journalists) to promote fair play.  Among the former madridistas we have the likes of Buyo, Contreras, De La Red, Santillana and Morientes, among others.

I hope this doesn’t mean we won’t get any of those special “inspirational” photos: Iker spoke to Madrid’s web site and the things he said that I liked are as follows:

How many plaid shirts does he own?

on why he wants to win the Copa del Rey: it’s a very important trophy, and Madrid can’t afford to go 17 years without winning it.  This trophy will become even more important if Madrid wins it.  For us, it’s something important, vital and on a personal level, I’ve never won it during the 11 years I’ve been here.

on what the players are feeling: in the locker room, we believe the moment to lift up many trophies has arrived.  We’re focusing on that, but we know that it’s not going to be easy and that it’s going to be a vibrant and emotional game between the two best teams in Spain.  Anything can happen, but we have the hope of achieving it and playing our football well, our game.  In the end, we hope to be able to lift up this Cup.

on whether the team is more motivated because they’re facing Barcelona: the motivation always has to be the same, regardless of the rival you’re facing, and even more so when it’s a final that will determine whom the first trophy of the season goes to.  All that already is extra motivation for this game.

on the first clásico: this game was a very good point of inflection for us, and gave us more morale.  In spite of everything, it all comes down to whether the ball will enter and if we can score more goals than them.

on what advice he’d give to his teammates: advice?  To enjoy themselves.  They have to know that behind them, there are a lot of people that love Real Madrid, who are making the trip to Valencia despite the high price of tickets, that there are 18,000 or 20,000 people that will be there.  We hope they’ll be visible by wearing something white to differentiate them from the rest, so that we can see them from the field.  We have to win it for them, for the club and for ourselves.

on the fans: the support of the fans is fundamental in order to win.  I can’t wait to go out onto the field and see the south end of the Mestalla with all our followers wearing white, with their scarves and shirts…We thank them for being there because they had to change their Semana Santa vacations to be with us.  I also ask of them to respect the opponent and the opposing fnas.  If we’re the best team in the world, we have to have the most educated fans in the world.  Anything to help and support the team is great, but you have to respect the opposing fans.

Notice how he’s touching el larguero in the photo, as he usually does before games and after his team scores.

Cantera news: Álex has been recalled from the U-19 team that will dispute a mini-tournament this week in Porto, Portugal (his Castilla teammates MFC, MSFC and “Piecitos” were also called up), but not due to anything bad.  He has been “promoted” to the U-20 team after injuries to several players in this last weekend of club football, which means that he will be heading to Italy instead for a friendly on Wednesday in Mantua.

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  1. Iris permalink
    April 19, 2011 11:37

    If what Marca reported is true, then Pique is even more disgraceful than I gave him credit for.

    • superfan permalink
      April 19, 2011 13:28

      My thoughts exactly. If it was true, his behavior was utterly disgusting.

  2. Catalanway permalink
    April 19, 2011 11:45

    Well Pepe spat on Barca players so you be the judge!!!!!

    • April 19, 2011 11:55

      If that’s true, then that’s not very sportsmanlike of Pepe and I would condemn it. However, the difference between you and me – and I think that it says a lot – is that I would never try and justify his behavior by saying that it was deserved just because someone had done something else. I would just condemn it, period.

      In addition, it was reported that Piqué had shouted this at several of Madrid’s players, some of whom had not allegedly spat at him. How would you justify the behavior then?

      • April 19, 2011 13:51

        Well said, Una. I completely agree. The fact that Pepe allegedly spat at the Barca players doesn’t justify Pique’s chanting, and Pique’s alleged chanting isn’t justified by Pepe’s spitting. In fact, if one did what they are being accused of in retaliation of what the other did, I probably would think even less of that person, because he should know better than to get provoked by the petty actions of a competitor.

        What is particularly disgusting about Pique’s alleged rant is that he had to drag politics into it. Didn’t he just win the World Cup with his Spain teammates from Madrid 10 months ago? Heck, didn’t he just play in a Euro qualifier with them less than a month ago? Don’t they all play for one country and one flag? And it’s not like he can have the convenient excuse of being “in the heat of the moment.” The game was done, he probably already shook hands with the Madrid players, he’s had his chance to calm down. No ifs and buts about it, what he said (if it were true) was petty, immature and unsporting.

        • emily permalink
          April 19, 2011 16:19

          This isn’t that simple… You can’t look at it like Pique plays for one flag. The Catala see him as being pro-independence, which is a big deal for some people there and they want him to ‘carry that flag’ with him on the field. He agreed to play on Spain’s National team, which made some of the Catalan people see him, and the rest of the guys, as being exploited by Spain because Castilla is perceived as having always ‘exploited’ Catalunya. He could really stand up for his autonomous community by saying “No’ when Spain calls him up, but he doesn’t say no, thereby practicing this double standard. He criticizes Spain (this wouldn’t be the first time) and then he plays for them. Go figure. BTW, Catalunya has its own ‘national team’, which includes Xavi, Pique, Puyi, etc.
          Just talking about Castilla with my Catalan exchange student, made her very uneasy. She was Extremely disappointed that I was a RM fan. She appropriately explained ‘You just don’t know…’

      • April 19, 2011 14:41

        I agree with Una. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Gerard and Pepe are both wrong here, so justifying one or the other won’t make a difference.

      • Catalanway permalink
        April 19, 2011 15:24

        Write all the rumours or don’t write anything at all plz. Spitting is worse than what Geri did. Without the Catalans, the world cup wouldn’t even be in Spain so be thankful… Plus Geri was reminding Madrid that the score favours us!

        And where’s the Di Stefano piece? I was looking forward to it…

        • April 19, 2011 15:42

          I have already updated the post, as I had not seen anything about the Pepe incident since I don’t read Mundo Deportivo. And for your information, both incidents are equally bad – and incomparable.

          Last time I checked, Cataluña was still part of Spain, and so I consider the World Cup squad españoles, not catalanes or madrileños or andaluces. The record book says 2010 winners – Spain. There is no footnote that says “the team was made up of 16 Spanish players and seven catalanes.”

          And I will write about what I want, since this is my blog.

        • ssabripo permalink
          April 19, 2011 15:55

          you are unreal! Trolling a real madrid fan’s blog site? Stay Classy Catalanway.

          By the way, if it wasn’t for Iker’s heroics in both the semifinals and finals, as well as Ramos’ near flawless defensive prowess during the WC, none of your “catalan” superstars would be world champions.

          Unamadridista, your site is one of my favorites, and brings a great joy to my day. There are plenty of sites where barca trolls will come with their poison and just ruin the experience, so I kindly ask you to please block this guy and remove his posts (at least those like the ones he has been posting). Many of us would love to just hear your input and media clips, and not have to read thru the diatribe catalanway keeps posting in all your articles.

          please!

      • ameera permalink
        April 19, 2011 22:49

        to be fair una both these incidents were reported by 2 news outlets one in catalunya and one in madrid so who nows if its true! I highly doubt both of them though. we all know how reliable sport and marca are on reporting the “facts” of both real madrid and barcelona

    • April 19, 2011 13:41

      I’m guessing that you are confined to a wheelchair.

    • April 19, 2011 14:47

      I quite don;t get you Catalanway, why all the agression? Noone doubts Barcelona as a team here, it’s a free – from- hatred place, you do not need to respond to any attacks because there are none here. it’s disrespectful to come to the place, where someone puts a lot of their work to create it and also makes it friendly, and complain about the team that you do not even support.

      Also, whatever the players did (Pique or Pepe) they should be judged not taking into account from which team they are and also as a separate adult men they should be. It’s not a preschool when one kid can say they were rude because their collegaues were mean to them. For me it’s clear, if someone is rude, he’s rude, the team does not matter to me here, so I will neither demonise the behaviuor of the player of the opposite team, nor will excuse the the player of the team I support. Plus we do not know if any of it’s true….

      Last thing and I will not mention it anymore – true champions respect their opponents, because the better your opponents are the more it counts when you win. It’s not difficult to win with the weak opponent, so if you say (like in previous comments) that RM is a weak team, you are also making the wins of your team look less worthy.

      • emily permalink
        April 19, 2011 16:27

        Actually, I am attacking Catalanway, or Cule, or whatever he/she is calling him/herself this week. I am tired of the negativity and half-witted propagandist rhetoric. This person simply exploits Una’s policy of including everyone’s rantings; yours, mine and that supposed ‘cule’s’. That person obviously doesn’t have enough of a life that keeps them away from the keyboard and engaged in simple happy activities like gardening, going to the mall or whacking himself off. I’m going to go water my plants and scrub the pool. Maybe I will mop the floor later.

    • gabriela permalink
      April 19, 2011 16:00

      Godamn it, do you ever shut up? Go make your own Barcelona blog and leave Una alone.

      And Pepe’s supposed spitting on Barça players was only reported by a Catalan newspaper, known for making up rumours about Madrid players. They have no witnesses, nothing. So stop talking like you saw it with your very own eyes.

      Una reported both Piqué and Pepe’s rumours, and in both she stated her disappointment. Don’t write as if she was applauding what Pepe (supposedly) did. Once again, I’m doubting your reading skills.

      • ameera permalink
        April 19, 2011 22:46

        what pique supposedly said was reported by a Madrid paper and they didnt have as as you say witnesses. You’re being hypocritical dear.

        • Gabriela permalink
          April 20, 2011 01:41

          Did I say Piqué’s action was true? I wrote rumour for both things. I’m just highlighting Pepe’s case because Catalanway seems to be stating this as a fact.

          Quoting myself: “Una reported both PIQUÉ and Pepe’s rumours”. I chose to not write about Piqué because I don’t care about it. I’m here to defend my player (Pepe). I didn’t bash Piqué on my comment. You need to learn how to read, too.

        • ameera permalink
          April 20, 2011 19:42

          Did I say that you said Pique’s action was true? Um I don’t think so. I was merely reporting on what you did say rather than what you didn’t. Maybe YOU should learn how to read as well. Seems as if we all need hooked on phonics. mija

    • ameera permalink
      April 19, 2011 22:44

      i don’t believe anything that I read from Marca or Sport or Mundo Deportivo. all those “gossip” magazines make up crap 95% of the time. so unless players come out and say that pepe spat at them and pique said this and that about Spain/Madrid I don’t buy it. I need more proof than some stupid low life newspapers and their phony stories.

  3. sam permalink
    April 19, 2011 12:20

    I am sooooooooooooo excited for tomorrow. Thanks for all your coverage Una 🙂

  4. April 19, 2011 12:22

    Piqué is a douche. There isn’t any other way of putting it.

    Also Una, while this blog is open to one and all, I for one wish Catalanway would keep quiet and go play on his/her own teams blogs. Go away troll, you are not wanted!

    • Cosi permalink
      April 19, 2011 15:34

      I agree with M… make your own blog, Catalanway- ironically, you don’t seem to realize that this blog is meant to laugh with each other, not spit in each other’s faces.

  5. DebS permalink
    April 19, 2011 12:26

    I really hope that’s not true about Pique. If so, it means the draw with Madrid frustrated him more than some would have us believe. I suppose not being from Spain, I don’t understand the complete political picture between Barcelona and the rest of Spain. But I don’t understand how you can represent Spain on the national team but then make comments which seemingly indicate that you don’t consider yourself part of Spain. At least that’s what I inferred from the word ” Españolitos” and “the Cup of your king!”

    “Well then, I hope Marcelo is rooming next to Cristiano, or he might go thirsty!” Oh Una, you always make me laugh! For some reason, I can actually picture Marcelo going to Cris’ room to get help opening it. :p

    That picture with Xabi “directing the troops” reminds me of a quarterback in the NFL during the count. Even the players around him look like they’re lined up before the snap. hahahaha

  6. April 19, 2011 12:58

    Hey Una,
    Not doubting your credibility, but do you have a link to the Marca article? I’m asking because I searched but couldn’t find it. Also, if I remember correctly, Iker and 5 other players stayed back on the pitch after everyone left, to applaud the fans – so it would be improbable that they ran into Pique on the way to the dressing room.

  7. Pammie permalink
    April 19, 2011 13:09

    “Well then, I hope Marcelo is rooming next to Cristiano, or he might go thirsty!”

    lol, I see what you did there! xD

    wow if it’s true that Piqué shouted this, then he did them a favour to motivate them further for the final. I don’t like him at all, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if it’s true. 😦

    Congrats to the castilla players!

  8. IsaBella permalink
    April 19, 2011 13:11

    I love the first Xabi gif!! 🙂
    As far as the Pique issue is concerned, if I was any of Madrid players I would simply ignore him and move on to my vestuario. Obviously, he was just trying to provoke them being emotional and all heated up after the game. Of course, provided that all that report is true. We know how the press likes to make up stories just to sell papers, no?
    I remember how during the game (did you hear that Una?) Madrid fans sang “Loca Loca Loca” when Pique was holding the ball.
    Di Maria’s boots look exactly the same as Alvaro’s 🙂

  9. Henrik permalink
    April 19, 2011 13:16

    Will Madrid have special shirts for the game?

  10. superfan permalink
    April 19, 2011 13:26

    There goes the cheesy poses again. Haha!

    That gif of Messi smacking right into Pepe’s ass will never not be funny. Haha! And I love what Xabi did. Haha. So much for seeking attention there, Messi. ;p

    Thanks so much for this! And I hope our boys will be able to bring home the cup. It’s been too long. Oh, and I love the initiative of our fans!! 🙂

  11. April 19, 2011 13:39

    I really hope that Mestalla becomes witness when Iker lifts trophy of copa del rey..we shout Hala Madrid together..Real Madrid is our pride.. ^.^
    anyway..Iker looks different with his blue shirt 😉

    • DebS permalink
      April 19, 2011 21:23

      hahaha that’s a great picture. Oh to be a fly on the wall and see what happened before that!

  12. Jules permalink
    April 19, 2011 14:34

    ‘I’m sorry but I tend not to believe what papers like Marca or Sport say (particularly around Clasicos). Remember in November when some paper reported that Xavi had offered the ball to Lass and said it was so they could see what touching the ball was like? It never happened, both of them said so. Things get heated but until a Barca player confirms Pepe spit on them or a Real Madrdid player confirms Pique said those things or a reputable journalist confirms they happened, I don’t believe it.

  13. amouria permalink
    April 19, 2011 14:47

    Hi Una,
    nice…as usual (more in fact). Thanks a lot.
    Have you heard about de stefano’s press release or article, whatever? if so, would you see what has been written by him as credible (im asking you dear Una because u r Spanish)?

    i wish our team a very good luck tomorrow.

    to the people who disagree with the content of this lovely blog, my suggestion is to say something nice or leave. The blog is for RM fans….

    • April 19, 2011 15:43

      I read it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and Di Stéfano is the honorary president, so he does have credibility. But whether you agree with him is up to your own personal decision.

      • April 19, 2011 21:56

        I read it too, and I have to say that I was most disappointed that our honorary president for life sounded like your average barca fangirl. He is of course, most welcome to his opinion, but there is a time and place for everything. His timing for this ‘enlightening’ article couldn’t have sucked more if he tried.

    • Ema permalink
      April 20, 2011 08:59

      Una is not Spanish. You can tell by the way she writes American.

      • Jennifer permalink
        April 20, 2011 11:35

        Because it’s totally impossible for someone to be fluently bilingual? Writing in American English isn’t mutually exclusive with being a Spaniard or a native speaker of Peninsular Spanish…

        • IsaBella permalink
          April 20, 2011 16:10

          agree.

        • Ema permalink
          April 21, 2011 21:57

          As a linguist I can tell you that Una is not Spanish. Her phraseology is not of someone who has learned a foreign language.

        • Jennifer permalink
          April 22, 2011 22:47

          Okay, I’m also a linguist, and you can certainly tell she is not a native speaker when she says things like “components of La Roja”. “Componentes” is a normal usage in Spanish, but would never be used by a native English speaker in the same context. Same with “the maker of the Cup has facilitated a copy” of the Copa. Close examination of her translations have the occasional word choice that allows you to “catch her out”, so to speak, but why are you so determined to declare her not Spanish?! If she says she’s Spanish, is that not good enough for you?

          Furthermore, it is perfectly possible for someone to learn a second language to the level of idiomatic fluency that she has learned English (and even moreso if she were to have, say, a parent who’s a native English speaker) so I don’t understand why her English skills are your determining factor in her Spanishness.

          (Sorry to call out your mistakes, Madridista, but this argument is exceptionally irritating to me.)

  14. Laryssa permalink
    April 19, 2011 15:20

    Piqué is an idiot. So, if this story is really true, I will not be surprised. What surprises me is that a World Cup champions for Spain has such behavior against his own fellow national team. But Piqué is so stupid and ignorant that I am sure this contradiction even crossed his mind.

    I just love Iker’s plaid collection. It’s so cheesy that it is impossible not to love.

  15. April 19, 2011 15:35

    “And when Messi ran into Pepe’s ass” AHAHAHAHA best sentence in the entire post.

  16. Lulja permalink
    April 19, 2011 15:45

    Not classy, Piqué, NOT at all. There’s nothing to add to what you said, I just hope it’s fake news!
    Same thing about the fans who boo at the Spanish national anthem – why do you come and watch the Copa del Rey final then? Why would you want to support Barcelona to win this cup if you already don’t approve of its origin? Please, think, and then act. This behaviour is so sickening to me.

    Iker spoke to Madrid’s web site and the things he said that I liked are as follows:
    How many plaid shirts does he own?

    At first sight I thought this was the actual question, jajaja! Someone should really ask him that. Or better “why, Iker? why?”.

    Can’t wait for tomorrow!

    • April 19, 2011 15:53

      That would be the second thing I would ask him if I had the chance. The first would be, “will you marry me?’

      • IsaBella permalink
        April 19, 2011 15:59

        I’m dying to see you do that Una 😀

        • April 19, 2011 16:05

          My friend and I once shouted that at him – actually, it was more of a command than a question – during a celebration at Cibeles, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t hear us, what with the other million fans around us.

        • IsaBella permalink
          April 19, 2011 16:11

          I think you deserve a candle-lit dinner with Iker for what you do here 🙂 then you can tell him that in private 😉

      • DebS permalink
        April 19, 2011 21:25

        hahahaha!

  17. Sanny permalink
    April 19, 2011 15:50

    I don’t like Pique, but unless there is some camera footage of this floating around somewhere or he admits to this, I will give him the benefit of the doubt like I would expect others to if this was being reported about one of our players. I mean considering all the pre and post game footage we had of this game (and other previous games), I find it odd that if something like this went down that it conveniently wasn’t caught on camera (at least as far as we know). The same goes for the alleged Pepe spitting incident. In fact, I don’t see any point in even mentioning it when the authenticity hasn’t been verified, because it just gives those already with an agenda against these players or their respective teams something to latch onto when criticizing them. A lot of us understand what a rumor is and will treat it as such but we also know not everyone is as discerning and will instantly believe everything they read, whether it be this or Marca’s numerous transfer rumors 😉

    • April 19, 2011 15:58

      There are times when I choose to write about certain things, because I believe the discerning fan needs to be informed about it. Even if it’s not true, it will be brought up by others and sometimes even used as ammunition against Madrid, and so I believe people should know what’s going on, whether good or bad, so they can form coherent opinions and defend their team if needed.

      The cameras aren’t allowed to go that far back in the tunnel.

      • Gilly B permalink
        April 19, 2011 16:39

        I love your blog Una, and always appreciate your superb decisions as to the content to include or leave out. You’ve made it clear what was said about Pique and Pepe, who the sources are and given an opinion – nothing wrong with that, and I’d say most agree two wrongs don’t make a right.

        I’ll be watching and cheering on RM at a bar with friends tomorrow. I aint gonna lie- I’d LOVE Madrid to win. It’s been too long and I’d like to see a Mourinho team beat Barcelona again, shattering this myth that they cannot be beaten. As exceptional as they can be, they’re a team; not Zeus! There’s always a way 😉

  18. Mrs Casillas Gales permalink
    April 19, 2011 16:00

    Thanks for this website Una!

    I am disgusted with any national team player thinking they can mouth off about it when it suits. He should be dropped from the espanol team if he doesnt like being described as espanol – I dont think we would miss Pique anyway 😉

  19. Ange permalink
    April 19, 2011 16:32

    My opinion on Pepe & Geri …. is the following

    I DON’ BELIEVE ANY OF IT!!!! PLAIN & SIMPLE!!!!

    Cause what would they get out of it …. sooo I will believe it when I see it … I think this is all made up to get FCB Fans & RM Fans to fight to argue … to get the clubs to fight and argue … to make the la Copa De Rey more intresting … that is alll …

    I believe more that SOME(because everywhere you have crazy fans that say offensive things) fans(Real Madrid) called Leo & the other players from drugies & other things that can be said here … then Pepe spiting & Geri saying what he said …

    THANX 4 UNA FOR THOSE GIF!!!! & IKER FOTO!!! 😀

  20. mila_casillas permalink
    April 19, 2011 17:04

    Xabi stepping over Messi made me cackle… And I would not at all be surprised if that stuff about PK is true. He can be such an ass. But I thought he had mellowed down recently?

    “By the way, the article mentioning this was accompanied by a picture of Piqué patting Cristiano on the ass.”

    Omg lol. I must see this pic. Was it from their Manchester days or one taken during the clasico??

  21. suzanne permalink
    April 19, 2011 17:44

    lol at the messi gif…and xabi just calmly walking over him.
    as to the pepe and pique thing…i’ll just take it as rumor. but it does highly piss me off if either is true.
    iker, iker, iker…i’ve decided if he ever comes to the mls, he should play for portland. he already has all the lumberjack apperal…lol.
    both pairs of boots are really nice…i like them

  22. MSkillz permalink
    April 19, 2011 19:41

    Let me try and explain the whole political difference between Madrid and Barcelona. First, I am Spaniard. I am an avid Real Madrid supporter, a madridista, but above all, a football lover, and it’d be foolish for me or anyone not to recognize that FC Barcelona is the best club in the world right now. It’s not that Real Madrid can’t match up to them in terms of football-nobody can. Now, with that being said, here’s the whole political side of it, which is why the rivalry between these two teams goes beyond football/soccer:

    -Catalunya, which is a SPANISH Autonomic Community (such as Andalucia and Madrid) wants to gain independence from Spain and become their own nation/country.

    -It so happens that nearly 90% of Spain’s industrialization supply industries are located in Catalunya, which generates a significant amount of economic balance, supplies, and well-being for the entire country. These industries started forming in the later half of the 19th century, and before then, Catalunya had NOT made any attempts at trying to separate itself from Spain. If Catalunya were to successfully separate itself from Spain and become a single, independent nation, they’d keep the industrialization to themselves, leaving Spain with nearly nothing. This is a major reason why Spain won’t let them separate into a country, and probably never will.

    – A lot of spanish Autonomic Communities have a second language that they speak between themselves other than Castellano(spanish). People from Galicia know Gallego, people from Andalucia know Andaluz, and so forth. However, they refer to Castellano as their primary language. In Catalunya, Catalan’s are taught Castellano and Catalá. However, their primary language, to them at least, is Catalá, and sometimes even neglect Castellano altogether. This is done, in a way, to show their discomfort towards the general spanish society and to isolate themselves from it.

    -As stated above, Catalans enjoy being isolated from what they refer to as the ”Iberic cavern”, or the rest of the spanish mainland. If you were to ask any spaniard from ANY city in Spain than those inside the Autonomic Community of Catalunya what his/her country was, they’d answer ”Spain”. However, if you were to ask the same question to a Catalan, they’d undoubtedly answer ”Catalunya”.

    So, that’s where the rivalry intensifies and it no longer becomes a football match, but a politic battle as well. Catalans don’t ”dislike” (for lack of a better word) Madrid only- they feel the same way about Spain in general. It just happens that Madrid is the capital of Spain, so their discomfort is mostly directed towards there, the heart of the nation. That’s why you hear ”Oh, Lo, Lo, Lo, Lo, Loooo…¡Que viva España!” (Long live Spain) whenever FC Barcelona plays in any other stadium other than their own in Spain.

    • 4Madrid4 permalink
      April 20, 2011 05:30

      You know your stuff my friend. You definitely know what you’re talking about and you’ve enlightened me on why the rivalry, can at times, become so vicious. Thank you for your knowledge

    • Devyn permalink
      April 20, 2011 07:10

      Thank you for explaining this!

    • Ema permalink
      April 20, 2011 08:58

      So you’re a ‘Spaniard’….then you will know that Andaluz is not a different language like Gallego or Valenciano, it is just a dialect. Spaniard. Sure.

      • Jennifer permalink
        April 20, 2011 11:44

        I think some Andalusians and Andalusian nationalists would beg to differ on the question of Andaluz… and there’s quite a few linguists who don’t consider Valenciano to be a separate language, only a dialect of Catalán. I’m not sure why you feel the need to question people’s “true Spanishness” here, though.

        • April 20, 2011 16:08

          Agree completely, Jen. Can’t imagine why ema thinks otherwise. Everyone’s interpretation of facts is different, so even if you live in the same country, you can see the same thing two different ways. Especially if you have a different level of education.

        • Ema permalink
          April 21, 2011 22:02

          because there are so many fangirls out there who claim to be everything Spanish and a Spanish expert in everything since the World Cup. I’ve had people tell me how to speak my language, I’ve had people try and tell me what my country’s history is, there is a ‘Spanish’ expert around every girl blog in the world. A Spanish speaker would never call himself a ‘Spaniard’. This word is unknown. Andalucian nationalists can say what they want, linguistically, it is not a language. Now if people want to come online and pretend they are Spanish, then they have to deal with the consequences when they are caught out. MSkillz, your posts on Spain and language have been lifted almost VERBATIM from the internet. This piece you have about ‘is no universally accepted criteria for distinguishing a language from a dialect’ is lifted straight from Wiki. Now please. Just be a fan and stop trying to be something you are not.

      • MSkillz permalink
        April 21, 2011 15:51

        Yes Emma, I am Spaniard. Though you are correct about Andaluz, Valenciano, Gallego and so forth being a dialect, I used the term language in my original post because there is no universally accepted criteria for distinguishing a language from a dialect, and my main objective was to try and give some insight to those that were not familiar with the political side of the story in the Barça-Madrid matches, which I’m glad some found helpful.

    • April 20, 2011 14:29

      Thanks for taking the time and effort for this explanation. I really appreciate it. I was initially quite take aback with the level of hostility between the two teams when I first started following the la Liga, but I also have several Spanish friends who explained things to me over a bottle of wine.

      You have put thing so nicely here and explained everything so well. For many of us, who are not Spanish, this is a tremendous help. Thank you again!

  23. Mel permalink
    April 19, 2011 21:00

    Well Pique did also force a Barcelona shirt onto Fabregas after a cl game between the two teams, and Pep said that there’s something wrong with his head. So I don’t see why he couldn’t have displayed said behavior.

    But what an idiot. Perhaps Shakira’s type is an airhead…………………

  24. pnylove415 permalink
    April 19, 2011 23:37

    Thanks as always, I love your blog! And I’m just now noticing the Alex tag, yay 😀 Congrats to my canterano ginger on his promotion and good luck to our team on Wednesday!!

  25. jean permalink
    April 20, 2011 02:37

    Thank u so muck MSkillz for your elaborate explanation:)
    As Usual great post Una.
    As much as I dont like Pique, I will choose to agree with his version ,since those papers who reported the “incident” are not really reliable. I just think that they want to create controversy and animosity .
    Hopefully we will win tomorrow Hala Madrid!

  26. evita permalink
    April 20, 2011 04:41

    Thanks for the explination about the Catalan’s. I’ve been to Barca, though I enjoyed it…there was a def ‘air’ there in Barca. Barca is def a beautiful city, and the people were very nice.

    Barca are an excellent football team. They’re just good. Period. Now, that I respect, completely. However, it’s the assholish arrogance that I say from their players especillay in regards to RM that annoys me, and makes me not like the football team.

    It seems they take the time to just put our players down, especially Ronaldo. Now, our guys are my no stretch angels, but I’ve never heard them be anything but complimentary to their compititors. Talking shit to your teammates in the locker room, on your private time is one thing but publicly is just in poor taste.

    PK is a complete douche, but I gave he and Pepe the benefit of the doubt on this latest round of horseshit. PK lost me when he spit on that guy during the WC celebration.

    Thanks for the incredible reporting. I can’t wait for my trip to Spain in a few weeks. Hopefully, there will be a trophy for me to visit at the Bernebeau.

  27. April 21, 2011 09:15

    On the PQ incident, it says that Iker has confirmed it? Is it true? I read it from this tweet :

    “RT @itsKarenDear: Iker Casillas: “Pique knows what he said & my team mates heard him too”

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